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Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society

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The Noetic Society is a 501(c)(3) non-profit group with members in Southern California and around the world, who have been inspired to study Homer, Parmenides, the pre-Socratics, Plato, the neo-Platonists, and other perennial philosophers and mystics, not for academic reasons, but for personal spiritual growth. The society was founded by Pierre Grimes, PhD in 1967, and was incorporated in 1978.



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Synopsis Another Sunday afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. Pir Highlights 2:58pm PDT Pierre's question, starting out: Any difficulties you are having, working on the Logos/Proclus homework? with Ged on this.. 3:12 with Belinda 3:19 Dream Exploration with JeffL 3:45 Dream Exploration with EldarI you need analogy to participate in the Logos (including of dreams) expressing the Logos is necessary, as well 4:25 Dream Exploration with BelindaB Dream Texts Jeff Lowe -- Dream 2021-07-11...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, elements-of-theology, proclus, NSDRM
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Jun 12, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another interesting Saturday morning with Pierre and members of the NS. Jeremy explores a dream with Pierre. Highlights 9:53am PDT warm-up with Belinda on holding your position and not being "cooperative" 9:56am PDT what does it mean to be empty? in Plato's Theaetetus ? 10:06 what is going on in Plato's Apology ? Because he is being charged with bringing in other gods than the state believes in "What I do not know, I do not think I do" -- is really making a claim...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Another interesting Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. First, Kate explores a dream with Pierre. Then we look at a paper Bradley wrote, answering Pierre's assignment to compare dream analysis with philosophical midwifery. This leads to a discussion on Beauty, Justice, building of ideas, and how Socrates was acting in the Republic , the Parmenides , and all the dialogues. Highlights 7:02pm PDT Dream Exploration with Kate 7:30 Bradley's paper comparing dream analysis with...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM, republic, book01, parmenides
Synopsis Another Saturday morning coffee and chat with Pierre and members of the NS. We continue with Providence, putting us back into Plato's Republic , and the Myth of Er, and .. who would choose a philosophic life? Highlights 09:55 AM PDT warm-up with Belinda on doubt, politeness, and having different ideas from others 10:11 with Regina, on reading Proclus' example of using the dialectic on Providence, re. her previously being caught-up on personal language use of “dependence” 10:29 can...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, republic, book10, NSDRM
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Synopsis Another interesting morning with Pierre and members of the NS. We spend a little more time on last night's study of Proclus and the demonstrations of dialectic on Providence (and others), then get into the question of "faith" and how this was used (by Paul) to change Christianity into something very different from what Jesus was teaching. We explore dreams from Belinda and Bradley. Highlights 10:01:35 What would the dialect be in Pierre's midwifery (via his book)? Does...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, gospel-of-mark, NSDRM
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May 2, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another fun Sunday afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights 8:08pm PST (Beginning) Warm-up questions from DonB and Barbara 3:21:30 Eldar's dream 4:10:12 post-discussion Homework For next Friday , read the 3rd hypothesis of Plato's Parmenides (1), which we will be discussing. What is going on? Dream Texts Eldar's Dream I was driving a van and looking for a place to do a...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning with Pierre and members of the NS. We work more on the Sun analogy in Plato's Republic , using as usual the Balboa translation. Highlights 10:11 Anonymous friend's question: Why not compare the Sun analogy with the Divided Line analogy? no thinking. Just looking. Do it. 10:24 start reading 507c: Is he beginning to compare with Divided Line here? 10:35 Finding the (multi-term) analogy: Sun, Light, Eyes (solar-form), visible objects, etc. 10:36 Now we've done...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, republic, book06, NSDRM
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another Sunday (ostensibly Parmenides study) afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. As usual since we started Zoom'ing, we do not do Parmenides, but instead just continue with our Friday and Saturday talks. We explore a couple of dreams and then back into the question of Justice and Beauty's relations to The Good, and its relation to us humans. Highlights Dream exploration,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book06, NSDRM
Synopsis Another Friday night NS meeting with Pierre. We look at a couple of dreams, and with the remaining time, Pierre opens it up to some questions. Highlights 19:11 Dream Exploration: Belinda 19:49 Dream Exploration: DavidC 20:12 discussion 20:18 open questions Bradley on the One changing in the 3rd Hypothesis of Plato's Parmenides 20:27 Regina: any difference between a paradigm and a model? 20:43 Ouspensky: A New Model of the Universe Lobachevsky: Just one change: Parallel lines do meet....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
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Apr 2, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another curious and fun Friday night NS meeting with Pierre on Zoom. Highlights Warm-up discussion as folks wander in (mostly with Belinda) Do you follow the practice of Phronesis? (Ancient Greek: φρόνησῐς, romanized: phrónēsis) Plato: Intelligence is not enough: People should also have phronesis. Also Homer: When you think that anything that you can do could make it better, or more excellent: Those two have to go together. Because "excellent" doesn't necessarily...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another good Sunday afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights Exploration of JulieH's recent dream Exploration of Eldar's recent dream Exercising the Intellect (Nous) Through the Logos 4:45pm Dialogue with Bradley about being offered a chance to be a buddhist abbot Dream Texts JulieH's Dream -- Fri 19 Mar 2021 A I was at this gym. And it was part of or at the place where...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Mar 7, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another fun afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. We explore Kate's and Belinda's recent dreams. Highlights 15:00pm PST Kate's Dream exploration 14:23pm PST Belinda's dream exploration Dream Texts Kate's Dream Mom..........I was usually mad at her but this time I wasn't and she was happy. Just feeling more comfortable about her. We had a ....don't remember. I was laying down,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Another Saturday morning with Pierre. A dream exploration with Belinda, and a continuation of yesterday's discussion on the 4 term analogy of the movie screen and our experience. Highlights Discussion with Jed Belinda: dream exploration is a “screen” implied in any experience we perceive? why Plato and the Republic ? What is the difference between this kind of teaching (Plato) and the way it is expressed in Buddhist literature? (No Logos, no Self in Buddhist teaching) Pierre lays...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, republic, book06, book07, NSDRM
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Feb 26, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another fascinating Friday night with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Pierre starts us out with a 4 term analogy and a movie screen as an analogue for the Self, then Pierre midwifes JulieH on a recent dream, and KateS on past scenes compared to a state of mind she went through recently. Highlights A study of mirrors What makes movies possible? What does the mirror do when you aren't looking at it? What conditions must the mirror meet in order to do its job? How about a Movie?...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
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Feb 21, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another afternoon with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Belinda, Jed, and Kate explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Highlights Dream Explorations with Belinda, Jed, and Kate a little post-discussion with Barbara on Book 6 of Plato's Republic , and JeffL on the differences between what Pierre has called inter-personal , intra-personal , and supra-personal problems. Dream Texts Belinda's Dream I was in an academy training with the teachers there, I was doing very...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Feb 20, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning with Pierre. More on Philosophical Midwifery, and also Julie explores a dream with Pierre. Highlights Some PMW with Regina Philosophical Midwifery, continued (from last night ). Pierre asks why he presents PMW to conferences and no one ever came up to him to ask him about more later, such as to get his book, etc Some PMW with JulieH More on Philosophical Midwifery Pierre's question 10:25 or so and DavidC's answer Pierre's Philosophical Midwifery is not...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Feb 19, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another Friday night with Pierre and the NS. First a discussion of midwifery, ending up in a discussion of understanding, knowing, and a little more on the Divided Line. A dream exploration with Sayon. Highlights Discussion When can a person say they have a problem? Different (higher) definition of “problem”. When a person comes to you, it should only be because they are having difficulties There should be sufficient evidence the person is having the difficulties they describe You...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM, pmw
Synopsis Another highly interesting Sunday afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. We explore David's dream and look more into Book 6 of Plato's Republic . Pierre gives us homework. Highlights Warmup Josh and Pierre on the Golden Section/Ratio and the Divided Line With Kate: post-discussion of her dream yesterday . Continued exploration Book 6 of Plato's Republic . W.H.D. Rouse's (translator, (1)) diagram of the Divided Line analogy near the end of Book 6. The four cognitive functions....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book06, NSDRM
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Synopsis Another fun Saturday morning with Pierre and the NS'ers. Some dreams explored and more discussion of Book 6 of Plato's Republic . Highlights Dream exploration with Belinda and post-discussion A bit more discussion on Book 6 of Plato's Republic (continued from yesterday ) (10:43am PST) dream exploration with CharlesS (11:04am PST) dream exploration with KateS Dream Texts Belinda's Dream I was interacting with glowing orbs. When I got close to them I could see the Logos inside of them....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, republic, book06, NSDRM
Synopsis Another interesting Sunday afternoon videoconferencing with Pierre and members of the NS. A dream exploration from Josh, a review from Aram of Pierre's and the group's approach to Jed's previous dream exploration, and a few other topics. Highlights [Note: I forgot to put up my normal digital clock on screen today. But from Pierre's comments at about 12:51 on tape, and from the timestamps on the “chatty-chat”, it appears that somewhere between 15 and 16 minutes on tape ≅ 3:00pm...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theaetetus, NSDRM
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Feb 6, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis A fun but intense Saturday afternoon considering Jed's dream and Pathologos issue and how to approach it. The group paid much closer attention this time, and got a good grasp of how it manifests. Also, I am going to start recording post-discussions after Pierre leaves, from now on, as folks have said they don't mind (as long as the recording banner is up). Highlights Dream Exploration: Jed and post-discussion of how to proceed After-party: Various topics. Dream Texts Jed's Dream -- Fri...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Another Friday night with Pierre and the NS. Dreamwork with Regina, and discussion of philosophical counseling. Highlights warm-up the Olsen article(1) Regina's News Philosophical Counseling, various issues Tonight's Homework has been moved to next Friday (since only 2 did it for today): See Homework section, below. Dream exploration with Regina Discussion with Aram about presentation this coming Sunday about what he found problematic with last Friday's dream exploration with Jed ....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Another interesting Wednesday afternoon with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Some dreams, a discussion with Jed, Divided Line question for this Friday , and discussion of the Golden Section and the Indefinite Dyad. Highlights Dream Exploration: Belinda What's the relationship between appearance and reality, or the intelligible and the worldly / everyday world? Dream Exploration: JeffL 15:54pm The Golden Section and the Indefinite Dyad in Platonic Thought (1) Teaching vs...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Jan 31, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another Sunday afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. Dream explorations and discussion of Pierre's approach. Highlights Dream Explorations with Michelle, Belinda, JeffL (to 4:29pm PST) Discussion with Pierre about his approach with Michelle and Jed (from 4:44pm PST onward) Dream Texts Michelle's Dream -- Sun 31 Jan 2021 -- “Teacher Dream” I am a teacher but not of a...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Jan 30, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another meaningful Saturday morning with Pierre and members of the NS discussing and unpacking messages from the "Dream Master" in a rational way. Highlights Discussion of Jed's comments last night on his own dream and what to do with them Dream exploration: Regina Metaphor and approximation in our language: IS the sky blue? IS the pen yellow? Dream exploration: KevinG Dream Texts Regina's Dream Why would you want to talk to a woman. Because they have risen to a place have...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Jan 29, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another interesting Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. We explore recent dreams from JeffL, ChrisC, and Ged. Highlights Dream explorations: JeffL, ChrisC, and Ged Dream Texts JeffL's Dream -- Fri 29 Jan 2021 1 I'm at my buddy Johnny’s house and I think we’re in Reno although it’s not clear.(I think so) It’s Johnny, Devon, Justin and myself. All guys I knew from high school and just after times. I’m sitting there in a chair or on the ground I think I’m on the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another fun Wednesday afternoon with Pierre and members of the NS. Pierre brings up the 5 Platonic solids and invites us to find their relation to other things, as Kepler did with the orbits. Dream explorations with Darlene, Kate, and JeffL. Highlights 02:52:07pm : The 5 Platonic Solids described by Euclid The orbits of our planets fit the same model (Kepler) And the five...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Synopsis Another great Sunday afternoon with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. An interesting discussion of phronesis and two dream explorations. Highlights 03:04:54pm : Warm-up (with Barbara) Logos ⇨ Phronesis ⇨ The Good ⇨ Two Ideas ⇨ The Self Is the activity of your dream-life following Providence? Saving, sophrosune Bringing the wholes directly to completion Providence (pronoia, πρόνοια): leading on a straight path to wholeness and completion Whole ⇨ Parts ⇨...
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Synopsis A Saturday morning meeting with Pierre and the NS gang on Zoom. An initial brief discussion between Regina and Pierre (carried over from before 10am) on why to read Plato's Republic (1), and then two dream explorations. Highlights Why read Plato's Republic ? 10:05/6 Discussion with Regina Dream Explorations with JeffL and Ged Dream Texts JeffL's Dream - Thu 21 Jan 2021 1 Mel from Dog school wakes everybody upstairs 7:00am. She tells everybody to get up. Philosophers X,Y,&Z are...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, republic, book01, NSDRM
Synopsis Another fun Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. A bit of Phaedo discussion and then a dream exploration with Josh. Highlights Josh's and Jed's Phaedo question at 75A (using the Balboa Translation ). the only way to come through self-realization is through perception. Would you agree all perceptions are identical? (Cebes: Yes) then if this whole world through our sense-perception is set up for us to have self-realization, then what is this in front of us that we are...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, phaedo, NSDRM
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another fun Sunday afternoon. We start out with a warm-up conversation with Nastasja, and then do 3 dream explorations of recent dreams, with Pierre midwifing, as usual. Highlights Conversation with Nastasja and Pierre on new paradigms, medical and philosophical Dream Explorations with JulieH, JeffL, and BradleyB Dream Texts JulieH's Dream -- Fri 15 Jan 2021 1 I had these dreams where...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning on Zoom with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights Phaedo and the world of Ideas: Idea-Selves (75A-E) (1) Dream exploration with Regina Dream Texts Regina's Dream Cognitions that are ugly are dangerouse/wrong Resources Plato's Phaedo . Juan and Maria Balboa, translators . See also our NS Reading List . Original Location https://archive.org/details/20210116NSSAT Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Do you enjoy...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, phaedo, NSDRM
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Jan 15, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another fun Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. We explore a couple of dreams. Highlights Dream Explorations: Aram and JeffL Pierre spends a little extra time during these explorations to outline where he is using each of the DDDAS (Definition, Demonstration, Division, Analysis, and Synthesis) from Proclus -- the basis of a dialectic with dream work. Some of our earlier discussions on DDDAS are here Dream Texts Aram's Dream -- Thu 14 Jan 2021 Part 1 i am in a cafe. my usual...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, commentary-on-platos-parmenides, NSDRM, proclus
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Synopsis On this Sunday afternoon, we explore two dreams and consider how to match up the Chinese ox-herding pictures(1) with the characters in Plato's Republic (1). Highlights 3:02:20PM - Dream Exploration with Stanley 4:07:22PM - DonB on Plato's Republic characters and the Ox-herding pictures(1) 4:18:05PM - Dream Exploration with JoshB Dream Texts Stanley's dream 1 - I am in a forest in Russia, on a small farm near a peasant's wood cabin.2 - I head over to a small lake, having just begun my...
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Synopsis Another fun Saturday morning with Pierre. Some discussion of how much we can say here politically as a 501(c)(3) registoered organization; dream and daydream reflections; and talk about what a real science would look like. Highlights With JulieH: Discussion of 501(c)(3) organizations and their (and thus our) ability to discuss politicians and political issues (without lobbying, etc.) (Pierre arrives) Daydream exploration with Eldar Don's reflection on the providence of black holes...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Jan 8, 2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Brief discussion of the U.S. Capitol building mess, and three dream explorations. Highlights Warm up discussion with Josh's question to his students in his class, whether any other teachers discussed the event, and PG asks: What can we do with this, politically, historically? Is there always this fringe group that plays itself out in history, irreversibly? Dream Explorations with Jed, JulieH, and Sayon Quote Fascist mentality is the mentality of the "little man," who is...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another Sunday afternoon with Pierre and the gang. Two dreams and some past scenes are offered up for exploration and philosophical midwifery with Pierre. Highlights (Pierre arrives late.) Then a bit of continued discussion on last time’s question of “whether/how to determine the author’s intention” Dream exploration with Jed Early scenes exploration with David Dream...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM, NSPMW
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2021 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another Friday night with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Pierre midwifes Josh and Belinda on their recent dreams. Highlights Philosophical Midwifery: Not a creation. A natural way of reasoning Dream exploration with Josh Dream exploration with Belinda Do we all want to see? And we are hurt when we are blocked from seeing? Dream Texts Josh’s Dream 1 – Sat 19 Dec 2020 I am looking for surfboards, I am searching for surfboards all throughout the night. I am excited and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
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Dec 23, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Pierre midwifes Belinda, JeffL, and Jed today on their recent dreams. Dream Texts Belinda’s Dream I parked my car and went to like a festival. When I came back to me car I could see several cars were burnt up. I was hoping mine was not one of them. As I got closer to my car I was saying over and over again please don’t let one of these cars be mine. Then I saw it was. JeffL’s Dream – Sun 20 Dec 2020 There’s an athletic coach who is being watched he is like under investigation...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Dec 19, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis In today’s meeting, Pierre midwifes Barbara on a dream she had this morning, and JeffL on a daydream he had while ‘sitting’ (i.e., meditating). Dream Texts Barbara’s Dream – Sat 19 Dec 2020 In the dream there was a doctor, a woman functioning in a clinic. In one scene she’s talking about whether or not she’s doing a good job. But she says she’s not sure that the hospital which she names is making any profit off of her work. That she comes to it without any training, and...
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Synopsis Dream Explorations and Philosophical Midwifery on this Friday night with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Highlights warm-up exploration of a sitting thought with JeffL PMW with KateS on her writing project dream exploration with Bradley dream exploration with Jed Dream Texts JeffL’s Sitting Fantasy 12/17/20 sitting. calm,clear,quiet,silence. then - “So what that ( the silent state) doesn’t do anything.” annoyed,irritated Bradley’s Dream I was in this kinda NS party,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM, NSPMW
Synopsis Another great Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights continuation with Kate of her talk with Pierre on Wednesday our educational system and its lack of personal insight the ‘Myth of Er’ in the conclusion of Plato's Republic Plato’s goals are not Socrates’ goals nor Parmenides’ goals is it curious that in the Myth of Er, there is no philosopher that is being judged? Did Plato goof? How should we grade him? What standard shall we use? The 10 ox-herding...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, republic, 7th-letter, three-pillars-of-zen, NSDRM, kapleau
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Nov 22, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis On this Sunday, JulieH and Regina explore recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts JulieH’s Dream – Sun 22 Nov 2020 I had won a political position as speaker of the head of the city, or yea, like the city. So, those were separate collections – there was the head of the city - I don’t know if it was city – it was some big public body, and I won the position of speaker of that body. And really, the only thing that was in the dream was my having won this position But in...
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Synopsis Republic, Books 3 & 8 Highlights Geometry, Axioms and PMW with Jed “Do you believe you are here?” Wholes and parts What is an objection? Dream exploration with KevinG Continued discussion of book 8 of Plato’s Republic There is a decline or procession, down from Aristocracy to Timocracy to Democracy to Tyranny. But is there any reversion (back up) in evidence in Book 8? (No) Music and gymnastic. Reading of 410b/c. How does Plato use these terms differently than we use them?...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book03, book08, NSPMW, NSDRM
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Nov 14, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning NS meeting with Pierre. Eldar shares a dream, which hits home with several of us, and a post-discussion ensues. Highlights Eldar explores a dream with Pierre midwifing When was the last time we sacrificed to the gods !? (Nobody in the modern world does) References Socrates’ prayer to the gods From Phaedrus 279b : O beloved Pan and all ye other gods of this place, grant to me that I be made beautiful in my soul within, and that all external possessions be in...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another Wednesday afternoon with Pierre on Zoom. Some dream explorations, then Euclid’s applicability to mystic questions and discussion of Cephalus in Plato’s Republic . Highlights Barbara, ChrisC, and Regina explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing (with Regina and Josh) Geometry and Proclus: the axioms of Self expression always wanting to show itself Self sees our...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book01, NSDRM
Synopsis A Wednesday afternoon group meet with Pierre. Highlights Discussion of Cause and Providence What is a Cause? What is Providence (pronoia in Greek)? The Mind seeing with the Mind ‘Agathos Eidos’: The Beheld Good The Power: the Daimon, bringing about a personal communication with the Higher Eternal There’s a power that understands every single problem, and in every way is trying to help: That’s Providence Barbara’s Dream Exploration Analyzing and answering Jed’s question...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, commentary-on-parmenides, chap5, proclus, NSDRM
Synopsis Another fun Saturday morning with Pierre and the NS gang. Pierre works a little ‘light’ midwifery with JulieH. Various questions and a dream. We finish off with Jed taking another shot at discerning Socrates’ motive on page 1 of Plato’s Republic . Highlights Philosophical Midwifery with JulieH Dream exploration with David Discussion with Regina on Doubt Discussion with Jed (Republic) Dream Texts David’s Dream 2020-10-23 1 I am at school. We are roller skating or something. I...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, republic, book01, NSDRM, NSPMW
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Oct 23, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Discussion of beginning of Plato’s Republic again with Jed; Three dream explorations; a question about Appolonius from Chris Highlights Third go with with Jed attempting to answer Pierre’s question about what is going on on page 1 of Plato’s Republic: Why does Socrates stay in the Piraeus and go with Glaucon to Cephalus’ house, and not return to Athens? How do you spot a reason? How do you recognize a motive? What conclusions are definitive, i.e., they solve the problem? Dream...
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Synopsis On this Wednesday afternoon, JulieH and Regina explore a dream and dream fragment. Jed takes another shot at answering Pierre’s question about what is going on page 1 of the Republic , and why Socrates goes along. Highlights JulieH explores a dream she had this morning, with Pierre midwifing. Jed and Pierre continue to explore page 1 of Book 1 of Plato’s Republic (continued from last Friday ): Why does Socrates stay and go to Cephalos’ house? Dream fragment exploration with...
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Oct 18, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis This Sunday afternoon, Pierre doesn't show up until 44 minutes past the hour. So while waiting, we start in without him, trying our hand at helping Barbara explore a recent dream. Later, Pierre comes in and takes it much further – as may be expected! – and we get to compare our questions with his. Then Aram asks a question about applicability of dreams to wider contexts, which...
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Oct 17, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another fine Saturday morning exploring dreams with Pierre’s midwifery. Highlights Continuation of Kate’s dream exploration from last night . Exploration of Josh’s Dream More exploration of Darlene’s dream from September 12th . A brief hello and announcement from Juan Balboa on his latest translation of Damascius (See references, below) Dream Texts Kate’s Dream (reprinted from yesterday) Brother came back in the dream. I was trying to get something to record him. He was just...
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Synopsis Another interesting, curious Friday evening with Pierre.. This time discussing multiple subjects, and doing one dream. Highlights Regina will be teaching a (Euclid’s) Geometry class using Rod Walbank’s model which he taught her in his class Literalism Dream analysis Pierre’s story about Enlightenment, and Reincarnation Understanding Symmetry Every single principle necessary for the dialectic emerges from the 4th dimension. Sensation, Perceptions, Concepts, Intuition Why the...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another great Wednesday afternoon talking with Pierre online. We discuss several interesting topics, and do a dream with Belinda. Highlights John Anthony West’s book, “Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt” ISBN-10: 0835606910; ISBN-13: 978-0835606912 https://www.amazon.com/Serpent-Sky-Wisdom-Ancient-Egypt/dp/0835606910...
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Oct 10, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis On this Saturday morning, Eldar, Sayon, and Kevin explore their dreams with Pierre. Highlights Some initial discussion of Proclus’ dialectic in his Commentary on Plato’s Parmenides (per ChrisC). Exploration of Eldar’s, Sayon’s, and Kevin’s dreams with Pierre midwifing Dream Texts Eldar’s Dream I was riding my bike down a parking garage and I came to a spot where I jumped down from a considerably tall ledge onto a lower level. At the same time I was hearing an advertisement...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, commentary-on-parmenides, NSDRM, proclus
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Oct 9, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis On this Friday night NS meeting online, Kate, Jed, and Chris each explore recent dreams with Pierre. Dream Texts Kate’s Dream 1 In hospital getting a shot. Mom was there. When I finished the shot I talked to another doctor who said he could give shots too. I said ‘good, I’ll get one next time from him’. Then I wandered about the building and caught a bus. In a dark train station. 2 It took me to the middle of town in New Orleans and I got out and had the bus driver stop because...
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Oct 3, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis On this Saturday morning, Barbara, Belinda, Kate, and Grace explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Barbara’s Dream October 1 2020 In this dream I’m with some people (fellow spiritual seekers) we go to a, or end up at a large, clear, (naturally living, rock and algae) rock lined lake in the midst of (surrounded by) low mountains. And, to get down to the lake, there’s various ways (less direct, ways around) , but one way involves going down the rocky side of...
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Synopsis Pierre introduces a question across Plato’s dialogues. Then he helps Jed, Chris, and Regina explore their dreams. Highlights Consider the ending of each of Plato’s dialogues: Did the person learn or change? (The real issue is courage .) Jed’s dream exploration, and post-discussion about midwifery Dream explorations with Chris and Regina Dream Texts Ged’s Dream – Sat 3 Oct 2020 SCENE 1 My friend Heath had gone to a prison, and when i walked to the prison with him i had given...
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Synopsis We discuss Pleasure and pain in the Phaedo, and then the Republic, and their relation to Courage, the True Lie, and Real Being. At the end, JulieH explores a dream with Pierre. Highlights Discussion of Phaedo and συκκεκραμενη
(‘mixed’) in 59A Phaedo Pleasure and Pain and Addiction Definition of Courage in Book 2 of Plato’s Republic (see our NS Reading List ) What is the relationship between sexuality and philosophy? What is the belief that is so important that...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, phaedo, republic, book02, book04, NSDRM
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Sep 27, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis This Sunday online, Josh and Barbara explore their recent dreams, with Pierre midwifing. Afterwards, discussion on wholes. Dream Texts Josh’s Dream I had this dream three times last night. I woke up three times and each of those three times I had the dream three times and during each of those times the dream occurred about three or four times repeatedly. In this dream I am at times watching a teacher teach a lesson and another times and the teacher teaching the lesson. The dream...
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Sep 26, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis On this Saturday, Belinda, Aram, Sayon, and Darlene explore the meaning of their recent dreams, with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Belinda’s Dream I was putting pieces of like flowers together to make more flowers so like a progression of evolution of flowers Aram’s Dream – Wed 23 Sept 2020 Dream A Scene 1 i am going to the supermarket. on the way in, i bump in to T. we exchange greetings. i am wearing the fluorescent yellow vest he gave me. we both try to make a funny/pleasant...
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Sep 25, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Eldar, JeffL, and Bradley explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Eldar’s Dream I’m walking up to a beach with my dad and another person. Maybe we had gotten there on a detour or we were showing the 3rd person something. I say to my dad “Oh look, the sand looks just like the sand in Croatia! It goes from brown to white as you get closer to the water.” I started to really feel like I was back in Croatia. He agreed.
 Then I walked onto the beach and then...
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Sep 20, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Grace explores a couple of recent dreams with Pierre. Highlights Dream exploration with Grace Barbara and Eldar on what is good about studying Greek What article needs to be written to wake up our culture to the destruction it is about to bring upon itself What dialog could be written with a person who holds these current values? How do you know whether or not a person can do...
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Sep 18, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Regina explores a dream with Pierre. Later Pierre asks us to consider why all religions and spiritual systems avoid the question of why we are here, why the soul wants to be reborn, and what is the purpose of our existence? Highlights Regina’s dream exploration with Pierre, and encouragement to write on the Self Plato goofed. All religions and spiritual systems have the same problem, and therefore, they are all inadequate. None of them ask, “Why am I here?”, and “Why does the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
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Sep 16, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Jed and JulieH explore recent dreams with Pierre. A bit of chat at beginning and end. Highlights Regina asks a question about a section of Book 5 in Proclus’ Commentary on Plato’s Parmenides Jed explores a dream with Pierre JulieH explores a dream with Pierre At the end, Pierre says: There is a hole in Plato. In the myth of Er (in the Republic), he doesn’t have anyone reborn as a philosopher. Why not? That leads to a rather perilous conclusion: This is true for Buddhism, Taoism,...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Today we discuss whether Philosophical Midwifery (PMW) can reach the same heights as any religion – or higher. We focus on Buddhism. At the end, Bradley explores a dream with Pierre which deals precisely with this subject. Synchronicity, baby. Highlights Pierre asks folks if they have an idea for what to talk about today. He picks David. David suggests topic: An explanation of the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
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Sep 12, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Darlene explores a dream with Pierre. Dream Texts Darlene's Dream -- Mon 7 Sept 2020 Jürgen and I are looking out over the ocean. We’re standing on a high cliff looking out. The ocean is below and out. I (or we?) see the ocean waters rising steadily up the cliff. We decide to return home and pack and leave for the high ground. There’s a sense we have time but we must hurry. I go through in my mind who I have to alert - some friends and family. I think about posting something on...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Sep 11, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Regina explores a dream with Pierre. Some discussion that this brings up on the importance of reflection. Then an exploration with Eldar of his dream. Highlights Regina’s dream exploration Discussion Pierre asks us if we followed the exploration with Regina the importance of Reflection what to do with tyranny How do you test for meaning? How do you go from what something is, to why it is? What is the importance of Regina’s statement about if she says something, it will get worse?...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Jed explores a dream with Pierre. This gets them into a discussion of Justice, Wisdom, Knowledge, and Courage in Plato’s Republic (which do not have the same meanings as in our language). Belinda explores a dream with Pierre at the end. Highlights Jed’s Dream Wisdom and Knowledge Courage, Pleasure and Pain the danger of calling the wrong things, ‘Good’ Is Plato trying to...
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Sep 6, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Kate and Grace explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Kate’s Dream – Sun 6 Sept 2020 {Old house in L.A. Driving through. I lived outside of the city in the country east of LA. Came in with Dawn who just had another baby. I was mad at her? She had another baby? Also because she was mad at me (which is true in life). Nadine (Debbie who called herself by her middle name for the last few years of her life) was there off and on. Glad she was because she’d deal...
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Sep 5, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Another good Saturday morning chat with Pierre. This morning, Pierre has a short chat (‘midwife-light’) with Nastasja, then midwifes Regina and Belind on their recent dreams. Dream Texts Regina’s Dream – 5 Sept 2020 There was a woman who was giving instruction on a certain kind of meditation. And we were practicing, and we were repeating what she was giving us. And we got to a particular pharse. And she read it. Duo, duos, dudo duos. I said duo, duce, duo. And I said oh, it’s...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Aug 28, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis JeffL and KateS explore their recent dreams with Pierre on a Friday night. Pierre gives us all tips on philosophical midwifery, and its relationship to philosophy and dreams. Highlights 7:10 Does PMW presuppose a platonic philosophy and Dreamwork and PMW is not for personal enhancement. It is for philosophy It’s not just for getting into our psychology, but working on more noble goals. JeffL’s dream The qualities of Justice as described in Book 6 of Plato’s Republic What does a...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, NSDRM
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Aug 22, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis With Pierre as midwife, Ged, Belinda, and Bradley explore the meaning in their recent dreams. Dream Texts Ged’s Dream – Sat 22 August 2020 SCENE 1 A I go into the back room of my childhood house, and there were people playing cricket. I joined them as a fielder, and saw that the ball wasnt coming my way, so i moved to the other side of the field where i thought this particular batter might be inclined to hit the ball. Another ball was bowled, and the batter missed it, but from the...
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Aug 19, 2020 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Ged explores a dream with Pierre, woven in and out in pieces with our regular Wednesday meeting . Dream Texts Ged’s Dream 19th August 2020 SCENE 1 The first think i said was, “You have got to change your Self Image, but you do that by focusing on a different one. But then ultimately you want to get rid of that image, and you do that by focusing on the role”. There was a bridge over some water, it was a rope. I walked along it, and the rope broke. Then i was standing on the side....
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Synopsis Another fun Sunday afternoon with Pierre, on Zoom/Jitsi. First, JulieH asks Pierre for help understanding the neo-platonic practice of “theurgy”. Then Pierre midwifes Michelle in exploring a recent message from the “Dream Master”. Finally, Pierre proposes a new study group for newer members for studying the Platonic dialogues (as opposed to the more advanced work with Parmenides and Proclus), and we decide on how to proceed with that. Highlights (with JulieH) the spiritual...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM